{"id":108,"date":"2017-11-13T23:08:21","date_gmt":"2017-11-13T21:08:21","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/ginta.lv\/?p=108"},"modified":"2018-01-26T23:11:01","modified_gmt":"2018-01-26T21:11:01","slug":"intervija-ar-juri-gagaini","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/ginta.lv\/index.php\/2017\/11\/13\/intervija-ar-juri-gagaini\/","title":{"rendered":"Intervija ar Juri Gagaini"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><i>Atceroties Juri Gagaini<\/i><\/p>\n<p><i>\u00a0<\/i><i>Sa\u0146emot s\u0113ru v\u0113sti par prof. Jura Gagai\u0146a aizie\u0161anu mani p\u0101r\u0146\u0113ma sav\u0101da tuk\u0161uma saj\u016bta. Otru t\u0101du person\u012bbu es nepaz\u012bstu. K\u0101 pasniedz\u0113js vi\u0146\u0161 bija \u013coti k\u0101rt\u012bgs, vienm\u0113r lekcijas s\u0101k\u0101s laik\u0101 un tika novad\u012btas l\u012bdz p\u0113d\u0113jai min\u016btei. Vi\u0146\u0161 sp\u0113ja \u013coti skaidri izteikties un vi\u0146a runa vienm\u0113r bija interesanta un j\u0113gpilna. Nav nosl\u0113pums, ka daudziem vi\u0146a studentiem bija gr\u016bti sadz\u012bvot ar vi\u0146a lielo ego. Lai nu k\u0101, vi\u0146am bija ar ko lepoties. Vi\u0146\u0161 bija \u013coti rado\u0161s un talant\u012bgs cilv\u0113ks.<\/i><br \/>\n<i>Priec\u0101jos, ka aizg\u0101ju uz tik\u0161anos ar m\u0101ksliniekiem Dekorat\u012bv\u0101s M\u0101kslas un Dizaina muzej\u0101 4.novembr\u012b, kur profesoru satiku p\u0113d\u0113jo reizi. Esmu \u0101rk\u0101rt\u012bgi pateic\u012bga, ka man bija iesp\u0113ja vi\u0146u paz\u012bt. Izsaku visdzi\u013c\u0101ko l\u012bdzj\u016bt\u012bbu visiem vi\u0146a tuviniekiem!<\/i><br \/>\n<i>Pied\u0101v\u0101ju iepaz\u012bties ar interviju ko ierakst\u012bju\u00a0pirms diviem gadiem.<\/i><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><i>In memory of Juris Gagainis<\/i><\/p>\n<p><i>The message of Prof. Juris Gagainis death brought a strange feeling of emptiness. He was one of a kind. As a teacher he was very strict. Lectures\u00a0<\/i><i>always<\/i><i>\u00a0started on time and were driven to the last minute. He was able to make a very clear statement and his speech was always interesting and meaningful. It&#8217;s no secret that some of his students found it difficult to deal with his big ego. However, he had a reason to be proud. He was a very creative and talented person.<\/i><br \/>\n<i>I am glad that I went to the meeting with artists at the Museum of Decorative Arts and Design on November 4, where I met professor for the last time. I am extremely grateful that I was able to meet this person. I express my deepest condolences to all his relatives!<\/i><br \/>\n<i><\/i><br \/>\n<i>Further I posted my interview with Juris gagainis from 2015. For now only in latvian. Sorry my english speaking reeders!<\/i><br \/>\n<i><br \/>\n<\/i><i><br \/>\n<\/i><\/p>\n<div class=\"separator\"><a href=\"https:\/\/4.bp.blogspot.com\/-JOd9HWpO-TU\/WgnY9IIE6KI\/AAAAAAAAKdo\/8Q76ZZkvQRIfMUM43FL6fFqDQU16Z4evgCEwYBhgL\/s1600\/2015-10-29%2B003.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/4.bp.blogspot.com\/-JOd9HWpO-TU\/WgnY9IIE6KI\/AAAAAAAAKdo\/8Q76ZZkvQRIfMUM43FL6fFqDQU16Z4evgCEwYBhgL\/s400\/2015-10-29%2B003.jpg\" width=\"400\" height=\"266\" border=\"0\" data-original-height=\"1069\" data-original-width=\"1600\" \/><\/a><\/div>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>2015. gada oktobris<\/p>\n<p>G: Vai j\u016bs \u0161obr\u012bd nodarbojaties ar jaunu rotu rad\u012b\u0161anu?<\/p>\n<p>Juris Gagainis: Es taisu laiku pa laikam, kad man uzn\u0101k luste. Vai tie b\u016bs n\u0101kamie izst\u0101des darbi, vai tie ir manam tuvam cilv\u0113kam, bet katr\u0101 zi\u0146\u0101, man pat\u012bk ar rot\u0101m\u2026 T\u0101s idejas, kas man ir uzradu\u0161\u0101s es gribu realiz\u0113t. Bet es nekad ne esmu teicis, ka esmu rotu m\u0101kslinieks.<\/p>\n<p>G: Cik daudz laika j\u016bs pavad\u0101t str\u0101d\u0101jot pie rot\u0101m?<\/p>\n<p>Juris Gagainis: Ja m\u0113s m\u0113ne\u0161a griezum\u0101 run\u0101jam, nu k\u0101das divas, tr\u012bs dienas es veltu, j\u0101. Bet man, protams, t\u0101s divas, tr\u012bs dienas ir tikai tehniskajam izpild\u012bjumam. Tas ir, tam praktiskajam darbam.<\/p>\n<p>G: Kas j\u016bs aizrauj rotu rad\u012b\u0161an\u0101?<\/p>\n<p>Juris Gagainis: Man viena no visiem\u012b\u013cot\u0101kaj\u0101m rot\u0101m ir piespraude. K\u0101p\u0113c? Tie\u0161i t\u0101p\u0113c, ka piespraude \u2013 t\u0101 ir miniat\u016bra t\u0113lot\u0101j m\u0101ksla ar savu saturu, ar savu st\u0101stu&#8230; Tas ir mans subjekt\u012bvs m\u0101kslinieka v\u0113rt\u0113jums. Man vienm\u0113r pat\u012bk eksperimenti, kaut kas t\u0101ds, ko es ne esmu tais\u012bjis. Es esmu gatavojis vis\u0101das rotas, gan, sudrab\u0101 ar dzelzi, gan citas tehnikas. P\u0113d\u0113j\u0101 laik\u0101 es \u0161\u0101das t\u0101das esmu ar dzintaru uztais\u012bjis, \u0161\u0101das t\u0101das esmu ar emalj\u0101m uztais\u012bjis. Parasti es neizmantoju emaljas. Tur ar\u012b ir t\u0101 eksperimenta zi\u0146k\u0101r\u012bba kl\u0101t, kas ar\u012b da\u013c\u0113ji nosaka to, ka es atgrie\u017eos pie \u0161\u012b miniat\u016br\u0101 m\u0101kslas veida.<\/p>\n<p>G: Vai jums ir k\u0101ds stils kas k\u0101dreiz bijis \u012bpa\u0161i iem\u012b\u013cots, vai k\u0101di laika periodi, kuros j\u016bs sadal\u012btu savu m\u0101ksliniecisko darb\u012bbu?<\/p>\n<p>Juris Gagainis: Dro\u0161i vien, ka tas b\u016btu j\u0101dara k\u0101dam m\u0101kslas zin\u0101tniekam. Protams, ka katrs m\u0101kslinieks, kur\u0161 rado\u0161i str\u0101d\u0101 un, kur\u0161 visu laiku, att\u012bst\u0101s, nevar b\u016bt iestr\u0113dzis kaut k\u0101d\u0101 konservat\u012bvism\u0101 vai manierism\u0101. Vi\u0146\u0161 ekspluat\u0113 visu laiku vienu un to pa\u0161u tehniku, vienu un to pa\u0161u m\u0113rogu un t\u0101 t\u0101l\u0101k. Ar\u012b m\u016bsdien\u0101s tas ir bie\u017ei sastopams, ar\u012b rotu m\u0101ksl\u0101, m\u0101kslinieki atrod ko savu, un tad visu m\u016b\u017eu to dara, un uzskata, ka tas ir vi\u0146u rokraksts, bet es uzskatu, ka tas nav pareizi. Tur ir citi apst\u0101k\u013ci &#8211; cilv\u0113ks negrib eksperiment\u0113t, jo eksperiments vienm\u0113r ir saist\u012bts ar\u012b ar zaud\u0113jumiem, neveiksm\u0113m, k\u0101 sac\u012bt br\u0101\u0137iem. Nu tas ir cits st\u0101sts.<\/p>\n<p>G: Kas sast\u0101da j\u016bsu rad\u012bto rotu cenu?<\/p>\n<p>Juris Gagainis: Ziniet, ar cen\u0101m man ir vis \u0161vak\u0101k\u0101 sapra\u0161ana. Es nesaku, ka es pelnu ar rot\u0101m. Man ir diezgan liela kolekcija, kas ir saglab\u0101jusies, jo es nekur rotas nepied\u0101v\u0101ju. Ne internet\u0101, ne salonos. Bet ja k\u0101ds cilv\u0113ks grib, vai vi\u0146\u0161 pas\u016bta vai kaut ko izv\u0113las, no eso\u0161\u0101. Es ne esmu tik gudrs taj\u0101s cen\u0101s. Man bie\u017ei vien ir t\u0101, ka pie manis atn\u0101k draugi, ciemi\u0146i no \u0101rzem\u0113m. Ja es b\u016btu visas rotas iztirgojis, tad man neb\u016btu ko cilv\u0113kiem par\u0101d\u012bt. Un es uzskatu, ka tas ir mans person\u012bgais, mans rado\u0161\u0101s m\u0101kslas muzejs. Man no saviem m\u0101kslas darbiem uzkr\u0101tas ne tikai rotas. Es \u013coti labpr\u0101t savas rotas dodu par pavisam pie\u0146emamu cenu, muzejiem, fondu kr\u0101tuv\u0113m. Agr\u0101kos laikos, jaun\u012bb\u0101, es p\u0101rdevu vair\u0101k rotas, bet t\u0101s rotas un t\u0101s idejas, kuras tu esi atdevis, ir pazu\u0161an\u0101, t\u0101d\u0101 neb\u016bt\u012bb\u0101. Vai nu t\u0101s aizved uz \u0101rzem\u0113m vai notiek kas cits. Un ja tev ir k\u0101da izst\u0101de vai, k\u0101 es saku, reprezentat\u012bvs pas\u0101kums, tad tev ir tuk\u0161as rokas, nav ko r\u0101d\u012bt. Tikai bild\u012btes.<\/p>\n<p>G: Saprotams. T\u0101tad, ja j\u016bs diezgan maz p\u0101rdodat, kas ir j\u016bsu nedaudzie klienti?<\/p>\n<p>Juris Gagainis: T\u0101 nav, ka man neb\u016btu pieredzes ar klientiem, bet es ar klientiem str\u0101d\u0101t nenov\u0113lu nevienam rotu m\u0101ksliniekam, jo tas ir diezgan gr\u016bti. T\u0101p\u0113c, ka t\u0101s kapr\u012bzes vai untumi \u2013 tie citreiz ir pat neizpild\u0101mi. Ir skumji taj\u0101 reiz\u0113, kad pirms tam bijusi cita runa un tad, kad tev ir gatavais izstr\u0101d\u0101jums, tad klients ir izt\u0113lojies pavisam ko citu, bet m\u0101kslinieks ir izstr\u0101d\u0101jis ko citu. M\u016bsu sabiedr\u012bbai v\u0113l nav t\u0101 sapra\u0161ana, ja tu ej pie m\u0101kslinieka un pas\u016bti, t\u0101tad tu uzticies vi\u0146am un vi\u0146a idejai. Vi\u0146a rado\u0161ais priek\u0161likums vai darin\u0101jums p\u0113c pas\u016bt\u012bjuma, ir j\u0101pie\u0146em, t\u0101 ir m\u0101kslinieka v\u0113rt\u012bba.<\/p>\n<p>G: Parun\u0101sim par \u0161o br\u012bdi un Padomju Laikiem. J\u016bs str\u0101d\u0101jat ar rot\u0101m jau kop\u0161 Tallinas M\u0101kslas instit\u016bta beig\u0161anas 1973. gad\u0101, aizst\u0101vot diplomdarbu \u201cRotas\u201d ar izcil\u012bbu. Varb\u016bt esat iev\u0113rojis k\u0101du at\u0161\u0137ir\u012bbu, tehnikas ir main\u012bju\u0161\u0101s, vai cilv\u0113ku pras\u012bbas? Vai ir k\u0101da j\u016btama at\u0161\u0137ir\u012bba rotu pasaul\u0113 mainoties valsts iek\u0101rtai?<\/p>\n<p>Juris Gagainis: Starp rotka\u013ciem, kas bija Padomju Latvijas laika m\u0101kslinieku savien\u012bbas met\u0101la m\u0101kslinieku sekcij\u0101, kur es ilgus gadus biju sekcijas vad\u012bt\u0101js, ir \u013coti liela at\u0161\u0137ir\u012bba, jo juvelierm\u0101ksla bija piln\u012bgi, k\u0101 sac\u012bt, padz\u012bta pagr\u012bd\u0113. K\u0101p\u0113c? Pirmk\u0101rt, juvelieriem netika \u013cauts ieg\u0101d\u0101ties c\u0113lmet\u0101lu, nek\u0101du. Es uzskatu, ka t\u0101 laika rotka\u013cu m\u0101kslu nevar uzskat\u012bt par pilnv\u0113rt\u012bgu, jo str\u0101d\u0101ja tikai ar Padomju Savien\u012bb\u0101 ra\u017eotajiem kr\u0101sainajiem met\u0101liem, tas ir melhiors, misi\u0146\u0161, bronza, var\u0161. Tie ir tie pamata materi\u0101li, ar kuriem tika darin\u0101tas rotas. Pat t\u0101ds apstr\u0101des vai p\u0101rkl\u0101juma veids, k\u0101 sudrabo\u0161ana ar\u012b nebija pieietama. Bija milz\u012bgs monopols uz c\u0113lmet\u0101lu un visi, kas slepus str\u0101d\u0101ja ar \u0161iem met\u0101liem un k\u013cuva popul\u0101ri, tika pak\u013cauti stingrai valsts kontrolei. Bija t\u0101da organiz\u0101cija pie Iek\u0161lietu ministrijas OBHSS, kas \u013coti par \u0161o interes\u0113j\u0101s un tie cilv\u0113ki\u2026\u00a0 Vi\u0146iem bija \u013coti lielas nepatik\u0161anas, jo tev viss bija j\u0101pier\u0101da, kur tu \u0146\u0113mi to materi\u0101lu un t\u0101 t\u0101l\u0101k. Latvie\u0161iem, tie\u0161i latvie\u0161iem, nevis lietuvie\u0161iem vai igau\u0146iem bija viena \u0101rk\u0101rt\u012bgi liela priek\u0161roc\u012bba, jo visa m\u016bsu pirmskara met\u0101la nauda, kas bija latos, t\u0101 bija sudraba. Vienlatnieks, divlatnieks, pieclatnieks&#8230; Protams, ka t\u0101 prove, kas ir latiem, t\u0101 nav, dom\u0101ta rotu darin\u0101\u0161anai. Faktiski ar pieclatnieku vai vienlatnieku, vai divlatnieku var lod\u0113t sudrabu, t\u0101p\u0113c, ka tas ir sakaus\u0113jums ar zemu &#8211; 835 provi, kas ir speci\u0101li rad\u012bts, lai mon\u0113ta nediltu. Jo, teiksim, cara laik\u0101 bija pulka augst\u0101kas sudraba proves mon\u0113tas, t\u0101s \u013coti \u0101tri nodila, un tas sudrabs izput\u0113ja putek\u013cos. T\u0101 k\u0101 mana paaudze, tie kas str\u0101d\u0101ja s\u0101kot ar Lieti\u0161\u0137o m\u0101kslas vidusskolu, m\u0113s visi tren\u0113j\u0101mies uz pieclatniekiem. Bet str\u0101d\u0101t ar tiem ir \u013coti gr\u016bti t\u0101p\u0113c, ka tiem \u013coti \u0101tri notika tehnolo\u0123iska par\u0101d\u012bba ko sauc par retikul\u0101ciju vai \u017eargon\u0101 \u2013 tas sa\u0161mor\u0113j\u0101s. \u013boti \u0101tri! Tur vajadz\u0113ja prast lod\u0113t milz\u012bgi, milz\u012bgi akur\u0101ti. Otrs kas ir, bija \u013coti slikti ar instrumentiem, \u013coti slikti bija konkr\u0113ti ar juvelieru z\u0101\u0123\u012b\u0161iem, jo m\u0113s tos pirk\u0101m tikai slepus un par lielu naudu no \u0101rzemju j\u016brniekiem, kuri citreiz atveda uz Lieti\u0161\u0137o skolu un pied\u0101v\u0101ja vair\u0101kus du\u010dus un bunt\u012btes. Sal\u012bdzinot ar to k\u0101 ir \u0161obr\u012bd, diezgan stipri izplat\u012bts bija t\u0101ds m\u016bsu, Latvijas, re\u0123ionam rakstur\u012bgs materi\u0101ls k\u0101 dzintars. Jo dzintars tajos laikos bija l\u0113ts, dzintars tajos laikos bija pla\u0161i pieietams caur ra\u017eo\u0161anas apvien\u012bb\u0101m, k\u0101 Dai\u013crade, k\u0101 Tautas Dai\u013camata Meistari. To ieveda netikai no Ka\u013ce\u0146ingradas, bet ar\u012b no Polijas. Tie, kas bija biedri, dzintaru var\u0113ja, ne jau kilogramiem, bet pa \u0161\u0137ipsnai dab\u016bt. Un \u017e\u0113l protams ir tas, ka visi fondos un t\u0101 laika paaudzes \u012bpa\u0161um\u0101 eso\u0161ie izstr\u0101d\u0101jumi, kuros ietverti dzintara sl\u012bp\u0113tie un pul\u0113tie gabali, tie visi ir ietverti kr\u0101sain\u0101 met\u0101la ietvar\u0101. \u013boti reti kad ir sudrab\u0101. Jo pat, kad m\u0113s uz izst\u0101di dev\u0101m sudrab\u0101 izstr\u0101d\u0101tas lietas, m\u0113s nekad nedr\u012bkst\u0113j\u0101m rakst\u012bt izst\u0101\u017eu nododamaj\u0101 anket\u0101, ka tas ir sudrabs. Vienk\u0101r\u0161i rakst\u012bja, ka tas ir met\u0101ls.<\/p>\n<p>G: J\u016bs, k\u0101 jau M\u0101kslas Akad\u0113mijas met\u0101la noda\u013cas dibin\u0101t\u0101js noteikti varat daudz past\u0101st\u012bt par akad\u0113misko izgl\u012bt\u012bbu rotu m\u0101ksl\u0101 Latvij\u0101, k\u0101 j\u016bs v\u0113rt\u0113jat \u0161o izgl\u012bt\u012bbu?<\/p>\n<p>Juris Gagainis: Visp\u0101r rotu programma, k\u0101 Tu pati \u013coti labi zini, mums ir sam\u0113r\u0101 jauna. Un neskatoties uz to, ka ir biju\u0161i jau vair\u0101ki izlaidumi, no \u0161\u012bs rotu programmas\u2026 Jo s\u0101kotn\u0113ji mums bija kop\u0113j\u0101 programma. Tie, kas grib\u0113ja, tie str\u0101d\u0101ja ar rot\u0101m, tie kas negrib\u0113ja, tie str\u0101d\u0101ja ar lielo met\u0101lu. Tas attiecas ar\u012b uz diplomdarbiem. Tagad t\u0101s ir divas atsevi\u0161\u0137as programmas un pl\u016bsmas. Es dom\u0101ju, ka v\u0113l nav pien\u0101cis tas br\u012bdis, kad Latvija var\u0113tu lepoties ar t\u0101diem \u013coti cent\u012bgiem, uzc\u012bt\u012bgiem un uztic\u012bgiem jaunajiem rotka\u013ciem, rado\u0161iem jaunajiem m\u0101ksliniekiem, jo ir ar\u012b daudz objekt\u012bvu apst\u0101k\u013cu, gan ar\u012b visa materi\u0101l\u0101 situ\u0101cija valst\u012b, gan ar\u012b teiksim pieredze, gan ar\u012b pa\u0161a jaun\u0101 cilv\u0113ka uz\u0146\u0113m\u012bba. Man \u013coti bie\u017ei izn\u0101k braukt da\u017e\u0101d\u0101s \u017e\u016brij\u0101s un dar\u012b\u0161an\u0101s uz Lietuvu. Tur t\u0101 kust\u012bba, ko m\u0113s saucam par rotka\u013cu kust\u012bbu, ir \u013coti, \u013coti akt\u012bva. Nu, pirmk\u0101rt, Lietuvie\u0161i, es atkal dom\u0101ju subjekt\u012bvi, vi\u0146i ir daudz liel\u0101ki patrioti. Un otrs, ka vi\u0146iem t\u0101 ir kust\u012bba ar trad\u012bcij\u0101m. Vi\u0146iem ir \u013coti daudz cilv\u0113ku, kas par to kr\u012bt un ce\u013cas un \u013coti aizst\u0101v t\u0101s lietas. Un man Lietuv\u0101 \u013coti pat\u012bk ar\u012b tas, ka vi\u0146iem ir \u0161is jaunrad\u012bt\u0101s nacion\u0101l\u0101s rotas lepnums, pirkt un valk\u0101t. Lietuvas sabiedr\u012bba jau ir pieradin\u0101ta, vi\u0146i labpr\u0101t p\u0113rk jauno m\u0101kslinieku darin\u0101jumus un ar\u012b ar tiem lepojas un valk\u0101. \u0160obr\u012bd individu\u0101liem rotka\u013ciem ir diezgan gr\u016bti ar\u012b tai zi\u0146\u0101, ka ir \u013coti liela konkurence no da\u017e\u0101das gaumes un da\u017e\u0101das kvalit\u0101tes r\u016bpnieciski ra\u017eotajiem izstr\u0101d\u0101jumiem, kuriem ir pavisam l\u0113tas tehnolo\u0123isk\u0101s un daudzs\u0113riju izstr\u0101d\u0101jumu priek\u0161roc\u012bbas. Bet rotka\u013ciem tas ir roku darbs un individu\u0101lais darbs, k\u0101 sac\u012bt, j\u0101b\u016bt stipram cilv\u0113kam un \u013coti str\u0101d\u012bgam. Protams, pie visa, j\u0101b\u016bt ar\u012b talant\u012bgam un pietieko\u0161i uz\u0146\u0113m\u012bgam.<\/p>\n<p>G: Vai j\u016bs redzat Latvijas rotu m\u0101kslas\u00a0<i>skolai<\/i>\u00a0vietu Eiropas kopain\u0101?<\/p>\n<p>Juris Gagainis: Man liekas t\u0101, ka viens no lieliem m\u012bnusiem tie\u0161i rotu populariz\u0113\u0161an\u0101 ir, ka Latvij\u0101 ar\u012b uz \u0161o br\u012bdi rotu m\u0101ksliniekiem tr\u016bkst apvien\u012bbas, vienalga vai vi\u0146i ir m\u0101c\u012bju\u0161ies M\u0101kslas Akad\u0113mij\u0101 vai vi\u0146i to ir beigu\u0161i, vai vi\u0146i str\u0101d\u0101 k\u0101d\u0101s cit\u0101s individu\u0101l\u0101s viet\u0101s. \u0160\u0101da apvien\u012bba var\u0113tu kompleksi kr\u0101t \u0161o jauno m\u0101kslinieku, ja t\u0101 var\u0113tu teikt, biogr\u0101fisko portfeli jeb dosj\u0113, nodarboties ar m\u0101kslinieku populariz\u0113\u0161anu gan \u0101rzem\u0113s, gan ar\u012b tepat, Latvij\u0101. Vai, piem\u0113ram, es t\u0101 negribu liel\u012bties, bet, pirmo reizi Latvij\u0101, es dab\u016bju otro pr\u0113miju. (Juris Gagainis 2014. gada nogal\u0113 ieguva 2. vietu Lietuvas Emaljas M\u0101kslas Bienn\u0101l\u0113) Es to varu izst\u0101st\u012bt tikai Tev, man nav neviena, kam to teikt. Piem\u0113ram, ja godalgu sa\u0146em m\u016bzi\u0137i vai ar\u012b liter\u0101ti, sa\u0146em starptautisku apbalvojumu, tur pat, tenisisti sa\u0146em 120. vietu, uzreiz tas ir baigais notikums. Es dom\u0101ju, ka visp\u0101r jau rotkalis ir individu\u0101l\u0101 darba dar\u012bt\u0101js, vi\u0146\u0161 ir vienpatis. Bie\u017ei vien \u0161im cilv\u0113kam ir 101 vajadz\u012bba, neatliek laika un uz\u0146\u0113m\u012bbas v\u0113l, paral\u0113li savam darbam, nodarboties ar savu, vai savu kol\u0113\u0123u, vai savas m\u0101kslas, vai latvie\u0161u jaun\u0101s rotas populariz\u0113\u0161anu. Padomju Latvijas laik\u0101 mums m\u0101kslinieku savien\u012bb\u0101 bija t\u0101ds pie\u0146\u0113mums, katrai sekcijai bija piesaist\u012bti m\u0101kslas zin\u0101tnieki. Mums, piem\u0113ram, bija Gundega Ivanova. Sav\u0101 laik\u0101 par met\u0101lu drusci\u0146 rakst\u012bja ar\u012b R\u016bta Mui\u017eniece. Bija v\u0113l vair\u0101ki m\u0101kslas zin\u0101tnieki, kas rakst\u012bja publik\u0101cijas un pat izdeva gr\u0101matas par lieti\u0161\u0137o m\u0101kslu. Biogr\u0101fiski viss tas ir atdodams.<\/p>\n<p>G: K\u0101da ir j\u016bsu attieksme pret amatnieku darb\u012bbu Latvij\u0101? Vai j\u016bs sevi sauktu par amatnieku?<\/p>\n<p>Juris Gagainis: Es nekad negribu \u0161\u012bs lietas nodal\u012bt &#8211; \u0161eit ir robe\u017ea, \u0161itik t\u0101lu es esmu m\u0101kslinieks, un te es s\u0101ku b\u016bt amatnieks. Cilv\u0113ks, kur\u0161 str\u0101d\u0101 ar materi\u0101lu, vienalga vai tas ir koks vai met\u0101ls, vai k\u0101ds cits materi\u0101ls, vi\u0146am pamat\u0101 ir j\u0101apg\u016bst amata prasmes. Latvie\u0161iem ir t\u0101ds j\u0113dziens \u2013 tas ir \u201eamatnieks\u201d. Smalku m\u0101kslinieku aprind\u0101s tas varb\u016bt skan pat nicino\u0161i. Bet dz\u012bv\u0113, \u012bsten\u012bb\u0101, m\u0101kslinieks, tas kas prot ar\u012b daudz amata pa\u0146\u0113mienus, vi\u0146am vienm\u0113r ir priek\u0161roka. Vi\u0146\u0161 var izgatavot sev pal\u012bgier\u012bci, ja m\u0113s run\u0101jam par rotkali. Vai vi\u0146\u0161 prot at\u0161\u0137ir\u012bgus met\u0101lapstr\u0101des vai cita amata veidus, izpild\u012bt kvalitat\u012bvas oper\u0101cijas. Ne vienm\u0113r ir iesp\u0113ja skriet kaut kur citur, tas, pirmk\u0101rt, sad\u0101rdzina, otrk\u0101rt, pat\u0113r\u0113 laiku un tre\u0161k\u0101rt, ne vienm\u0113r cits izpilda t\u0101, k\u0101 Tu b\u016btu v\u0113l\u0113jies. Tas jau sen ir pier\u0101d\u012bts, es dz\u012bv\u0113 to ne\u0161\u0137iroju. Man dz\u012bv\u0113 ir t\u0101di darbi, kas ir maz saist\u012bti ar m\u0101kslu, bet kur vajag amatnieka prasmi un kvalit\u0101ti. Es nekad tos ne\u0161\u0137iroju, es tikpat atbild\u012bgi daru ar\u012b tos darbus.<\/p>\n<p>G: J\u016bs piekrit\u012bsiet teicienam: \u201eAmats, m\u0101kslas pamats\u201d\u2026<\/p>\n<p>Juris Gagainis: Var\u0113tu b\u016bt, var\u0113tu b\u016bt\u2026<\/p>\n<p>G: Atgrie\u017eoties pie terminiem. K\u0101 j\u016bs uzskat\u0101t, ko tie\u0161i noz\u012bm\u0113 vai k\u0101 at\u0161\u0137iras v\u0101rds juvelieris, rotu m\u0101kslinieks vai rotkalis? Vai varb\u016bt met\u0101lm\u0101kslinieks?<\/p>\n<p>Juris Gagainis: Es sav\u0101 terminolo\u0123ij\u0101, saskar\u0113 ar jauniem cilv\u0113kiem un ar\u012b citur, cen\u0161os vienm\u0113r run\u0101t t\u0101d\u0101 latvisk\u0101 v\u0101rd\u0101 &#8211; rotkalis. Tas ir \u013coti sens v\u0101rds, tas tika apstiprin\u0101ts m\u016bsu izcil\u0101 pirmskara valodnieka Endzel\u012bna v\u0101rdu kr\u0101jum\u0101. Man liekas, ka tas ir \u013coti atbilsto\u0161i. Ja m\u0113s lo\u0123iski analiz\u0113jam to v\u0101rdu j\u0113gu tad \u2013 rota, tas ir priek\u0161mets ar ko m\u0113s rot\u0101jamies. \u013boti daudz tautas dziesm\u0101s ir runas par da\u017e\u0101da veida rot\u0101\u0161an\u0101m. Rot\u0101 ar j\u0101\u0146uz\u0101l\u0113m ne tikai sevi, bet govis un visu ko. Tas ir kaut kas est\u0113tiski, \u0113tiski skaists, t\u0101dos iev\u0113rojamos, noz\u012bm\u012bgos br\u012b\u017eos. Piem\u0113ram, Lietuvie\u0161i lieto v\u0101rdu\u00a0<i>juve\u013cirka<\/i>. Vi\u0146iem tas ir ieg\u0101jies, un vi\u0146i to lieto. Igau\u0146iem ir\u00a0<i>korutaite<\/i>\u00a0\u2013 rotu m\u0101ksla. Un man liekas, ja mums leksikon\u0101 ir \u0161ie skaistie v\u0101rdi &#8211; rotkalis un rotas, un rotu darin\u0101\u0161ana, tas ir pat\u012bkami. Mums ir ar\u012b rotu programma, nevis juvelieru programma.<\/p>\n<p>G: J\u016bs ar sav\u0101m rot\u0101m nereti piedal\u0101ties simpozijos, izst\u0101d\u0113s Lietuv\u0101, ar\u012b citur \u0101rzem\u0113s. K\u0101 \u0161\u012b dal\u012bba \u0101rzemju izst\u0101d\u0113s ietekm\u0113 j\u016bsu darbu?<\/p>\n<p>Juris Gagainis: Es piedalos tur, kur es varu, m\u0101ku sarun\u0101ties ar cilv\u0113kiem. Un es savas rotas esmu izst\u0101d\u012bjis Somij\u0101, es savas rotas esmu izst\u0101d\u012bjis ar\u012b Krievij\u0101, es savas rotas esmu izst\u0101d\u012bjis ar\u012b Igaunij\u0101 un Lietuv\u0101. Es angliski varu sarun\u0101ties ce\u013cojumu un sadz\u012bvisk\u0101 valod\u0101. Kad man t\u0101 gudri j\u0101run\u0101, ar smalkiem v\u0101rdiem un viss \u013coti liter\u0101ri pareizi, man nav tik labas t\u0101s ang\u013cu valodas zin\u0101\u0161anas. T\u0101p\u0113c es atturos darbus vest uz cit\u0101m valst\u012bm. Protams, tad kad ir kolekt\u012bv\u0101s izst\u0101des, tad es piedalos. Bet individu\u0101li es citur ne esmu piedal\u012bjies, k\u0101 \u0161aj\u0101s nosauktaj\u0101s valst\u012bs.<\/p>\n<p>G: Bet k\u0101 dal\u012bba izst\u0101d\u0113s un simpozijos ietekm\u0113 j\u016bsu darbu, vai tas jums sniedz kaut k\u0101du papildus motiv\u0101ciju?<\/p>\n<p>Juris Gagainis: Katr\u0101 zi\u0146\u0101 tas sniedz papildus motiv\u0101ciju. \u0145emot v\u0113r\u0101, ka es Padomju Savien\u012bbas laik\u0101 biju M\u0101kslinieku savien\u012bbas priek\u0161s\u0113d\u0113t\u0101js, man bija gar\u0161 saraksts ar lieliem amatniekiem. Tur bija rotka\u013ci, piedod, bet daudzi, daudzi M\u0101kslinieku savien\u012bbas biedri bija jaun\u0101ki par mani. Tad kad uzn\u0101ca juku laiki, vairs neviens ar rot\u0101m nenodarboj\u0101s. Es esmu vien\u012bgais, kas izg\u0101ja ar savu&#8230; Jo, protams, ka man ir j\u0101pateicas tam kungam, ka es esmu non\u0101cis m\u0101kslas akad\u0113mij\u0101. Lai cik bija bad\u012bgi laiki un zemas, un mazas algas, es vienm\u0113r var\u0113ju atlicin\u0101t laiku str\u0101d\u0101t rado\u0161i. Visus \u0161os gadus, cik vien ir bijis iesp\u0113jams, es esmu piedal\u012bjies gan akad\u0113mijas izst\u0101d\u0113s, gan tais\u012bjis sev maz\u0101kas person\u0101lizst\u0101des. Esmu ar\u012b piedal\u012bjies viet\u0113j\u0101s izst\u0101d\u0113s, kad m\u0113s brauc\u0101m uz C\u0113s\u012bm un citur. (dom\u0101ta LMA Met\u0101la dizaina noda\u013cas studentu un pasniedz\u0113ju darbu izst\u0101de \u201eZiemas Saule\u201d, Gulbenes novada v\u0113stures un m\u0101kslas muzej\u0101, 2013.g. 17. novembris &#8211; 31.decembris; C\u0113su izst\u0101\u017eu nam\u0101, 2014.g. 7. febru\u0101ris &#8211; 2. marts.) Es vienm\u0113r esmu centies atkal par\u0101d\u012bt kaut ko jaunu. Man<br \/>\nliekas, ka tas ir galvenais, ka Tu esi uztic\u012bgs met\u0101lam. Tiem jaunajiem m\u0101ksliniekiem bie\u017ei vien pietr\u016bkst t\u0101 uztic\u012bba. Man\u012b visliel\u0101ko prieku rada tas process. Es ne esmu vien\u012bgais m\u0101kslinieks, kur\u0161 to saka. Ar\u012b no citiem esmu dzird\u0113jis, ka vi\u0146i saka, bie\u017ei vien, kad Tev t\u0101 lieti\u0146a ir gatava, Tev ir v\u0113rt\u0113jums par to, bet Tev jau domas kav\u0113j\u0101s pie n\u0101ko\u0161\u0101. Katrs process, kur\u0101 Tu esi, vienalga vai Tu taisi rotas vai ko citu, ir interesants ar to, ka tur nekad nav s\u0113rijveida ra\u017eo\u0161ana. Vienm\u0113r katrs darbs ir kaut kas jauns. Un, bie\u017ei vien, katram jaunajam ir j\u0101atrod kaut k\u0101di jauni pa\u0146\u0113mieni vai jauni eksperimenti, vai jauni instrumenti. Rotas var uztais\u012bt visvis\u0101di. Ja, piem\u0113ram, Tu man iedotu kaut k\u0101du kompoz\u012bciju es Tev uztais\u012btu tehnolo\u0123isko pas\u012bti \u2013 to var tais\u012bt \u0161it\u0101di, to var tais\u012bt \u0161it\u0101di, un to var tais\u012bt \u0161it\u0101di. Vismaz tr\u012bs at\u0161\u0137ir\u012bgos veidos. Tur ir t\u0101 m\u0101kslinieka funktieris, k\u0101 vi\u0146\u0161 var tais\u012bt, k\u0101du pa\u0146\u0113mienu vi\u0146\u0161 izv\u0113l\u0113sies, kur t\u0101 izteiksme b\u016bs visfor\u0161\u0101k\u0101. Bet kur ar\u012b neb\u016bs \u0161it\u0101 te uztais\u012bts (r\u0101da ar rok\u0101m) ka Tu esi p\u0101rmoc\u012bjies, samoc\u012bjies un beig\u0101s pa\u0161am ne visai pat pat\u012bk.<\/p>\n<p>G: K\u0101, j\u016bsupr\u0101t, var\u0113tu populariz\u0113t rotu m\u0101kslas kust\u012bbu Latvij\u0101, ja tas visp\u0101r ir nepiecie\u0161ams?<\/p>\n<p>Juris Gagainis: Man ir diezgan, nu neteiksim skumji, bet gr\u016bti run\u0101t, t\u0101p\u0113c, ka m\u0101kslas akad\u0113mijas rotu programmu k\u0101dus divus, tr\u012bs gadus, gan ma\u0123istra, gan bakalaura programm\u0101s, ir beigu\u0161i cilv\u0113ki, bet vi\u0146i kaut k\u0101 paz\u016bd lielaj\u0101 pasaul\u0113. T\u0101 lieta, ko es saucu par uztic\u012bbu&#8230; Visgr\u016bt\u0101k ir jaunam cilv\u0113kam pats s\u0101kums. Ja m\u0113s run\u0101jam par jauniem cilv\u0113kiem, darbn\u012bca, instrumenti, materi\u0101li, pas\u016bt\u012bjumi\u2026 viss tas ir \u013coti sare\u017e\u0123\u012bti. Rotka\u013cu kust\u012bba, es nevaru teikt, ka t\u0101 \u0161obr\u012bd ir laba. Es nevaru teikt, ka t\u0101 ir laba, t\u0101d\u0101 zi\u0146\u0101. Ir ar\u012b diezgan daudzsolo\u0161i jauni cilv\u0113ki, kas beigu\u0161i R\u012bgas Dizaina un M\u0101kslas vidusskolu un var t\u012bri labi str\u0101d\u0101t, un ir t\u0101di, kas beigu\u0161i ar\u012b Latvijas M\u0101kslas akad\u0113miju. Es jau nesauk\u0161u nevienu v\u0101rd\u0101, mums ir bakalauri, mums ir ma\u0123istri un, ja man t\u0101 god\u012bgi j\u0101saka, kur\u0161 ir tas cer\u012bgais, kur\u0161 b\u016bs uztic\u012bgais, gr\u016bti atbild\u0113t\u2026 Gr\u016bti atbild\u0113t. Saist\u012bb\u0101 ar to, ko es iepriek\u0161 Tev teicu, ka rotka\u013ciem tr\u016bkst kop\u012bbas, tr\u016bkst t\u0101das apvien\u012bbas, vien\u012bgais, ko es grib\u0113tu piemin\u0113t un uzliel\u012bt, ir galerija\u00a0<i>Putti<\/i>. Gan komerci\u0101lu, gan citu apsv\u0113rumu d\u0113\u013c galerija zem savas pasp\u0101rnes uztais\u012bjusi un pie sevis tur m\u0101kslinieku atlasi. Protams, m\u0113s neanaliz\u0113sim to m\u0101kslinieku rado\u0161\u0101s v\u0113rt\u012bbas, bet tur ir ar\u012b \u013coti labi m\u0101kslinieki. Man liekas, ka tas ir labs piem\u0113rs, ka tas t\u0101 var\u0113tu b\u016bt. Padomju laik\u0101 man \u013coti patika tas, ka bija Lieti\u0161\u0137i Dekorat\u012bv\u0101s un M\u0101kslas muzejs. \u0160is muzejs, direktores Sal\u012btes Kr\u0113sli\u0146as person\u0101, visu laiku uztur\u0113ja saikni ar m\u0101ksliniekiem. M\u0113s jut\u0101m ap \u0161o muzeju t\u0101du, k\u0101 sac\u012bt, pasp\u0101rni. Organiz\u0113j\u0101m izst\u0101des. Divreiz gad\u0101, pavasar\u012b un ruden\u012b, liel\u0101s izst\u0101des, kur bija ar\u012b rotas. Muzejs organiz\u0113ja ar\u012b rotu s\u016bt\u012b\u0161anu uz \u0101rzem\u0113m, s\u016bt\u012bja uz V\u0101ciju, s\u016bt\u012bja uz \u010cehoslov\u0101kiju, s\u016bt\u012bja ar\u012b uz br\u0101l\u012bgaj\u0101m republik\u0101m, uz to pa\u0161u Maskavu un P\u0113terburgu, jo individu\u0101li tas ir piln\u012bgi nej\u0113dz\u012bgi. Ko es tur savus da\u017eas roti\u0146as s\u016bt\u012b\u0161u nezin kur? Tagad muzejam ir cita direktore, vi\u0146ai tas neinteres\u0113. Tie m\u0101kslinieki, kas k\u0101dreiz cer\u0113ja uz kaut k\u0101du sadz\u012bvisku, rado\u0161u draudz\u012bbu, tas viss ir izput\u0113jis. Nu katrs ku\u013c\u0101s, k\u0101 m\u0101k. T\u0101da ir paties\u012bbas realit\u0101te.<\/p>\n<p>G: J\u016bs min\u0113j\u0101t, ka jums rotu rad\u012b\u0161anas gait\u0101 interesant\u0101kais ir pats process, ne tikai izn\u0101kums. K\u0101ds ir j\u016bsu rotu rad\u012b\u0161anas process un vai j\u016bs var\u0113tu ar to iepaz\u012bstin\u0101t citus?<\/p>\n<p>Juris Gagainis: Es par to esmu dom\u0101jis. Ja es \u0146emtu savas rotas un atlas\u012btu, tad man tur b\u016btu aptuveni 30 da\u017e\u0101di procesi. Es vakar\u0101, kad nevaru aizmigt, jeb, kad s\u0113\u017eu vann\u0101, kur es zinu, ka es nekur nevaru aiziet, es vienm\u0113r dom\u0101ju, ka man ir kaut k\u0101ds t\u0101ds tehnolo\u0123isks risin\u0101jums un bie\u017ei vien es izdom\u0101ju to lab\u0101ko, ne t\u0101du, k\u0101 es biju to pirmo steig\u0101 iedom\u0101jies. Un es iedom\u0101jos un man izn\u0101k, un man izn\u0101k \u013coti labi. T\u0101p\u0113c es saku, tas rad\u012b\u0161anas process ir t\u0101ds anal\u012btisks dom\u0101\u0161anas noslogojums smadzen\u0113m, k\u0101 to dar\u012bt, k\u0101 to nedar\u012bt. Tev ir j\u0101b\u016bt lielai bag\u0101\u017eai gan ar pieredzi, gan ar instrumentiem, lai var t\u0101\u2026 Citreiz es nevaru to pat sav\u0101 darbn\u012bc\u0101 paveikt, tad es atkal izdom\u0101ju, \u0101, es to tur, tur es to, tur es to, kam\u0113r man ir tas, ko es v\u0113los. T\u0101da t\u012bksmin\u0101\u0161an\u0101s par gataviem darbiem, cik un kur es p\u0101rdo\u0161u, un, cik maks\u0101s, man visp\u0101r tas nepat\u012bk. Ja mums b\u016btu pareiza valsts un viss pareizi nost\u0101d\u012bts, t\u0101 b\u016btu tirgot\u0101ju pasaule. Vi\u0146i noteiks to cenu, vi\u0146i atrad\u012bs manu pirc\u0113ju, vi\u0146i nodarbosies ar to. Ir, kas mani ir uzaicin\u0101ju\u0161i, lai es eju uz galerij\u0101m, bet es t\u0101 vel ne esmu nekur piesaist\u012bjies, jo man bez rot\u0101m ir ar\u012b citi pas\u016bt\u012bjumi, kas man ar\u012b ir interesanti, un, kur es varu v\u0113l, ko nopeln\u012bt. Es ne esmu t\u0101ds, k\u0101 lai tev saka, smalkais cilv\u0113ks. Es esmu vienk\u0101r\u0161s. Mani galvenie t\u0113ri\u0146i ir mana ce\u013co\u0161ana, mani hobiji un mani tuvinieki.<\/p>\n<p>G: Vai rotu m\u0101kslas pasaul\u0113 vajadz\u012bgs k\u0101das simpozijs vai l\u012bdz\u012bga veida aktivit\u0101te, kas izvestu rotu m\u0101kslu \u0101rpus telp\u0101m, par\u0101d\u012btu cilv\u0113kiem, k\u0101 darbojas m\u0101kslinieki?<\/p>\n<p>Juris Gagainis: Es esmu piedal\u012bjies vair\u0101kos simpozijos un da\u017eus pat esmu pats organiz\u0113jis, bet tur nevien\u0101 nebija rotas. Tu zini, p\u0113d\u0113jais bija \u0161ovasar Lietuv\u0101, Kintai. Tur viena meiten\u012bte, Viktorija, vi\u0146a bija Tel\u0161u skolas studente, m\u0113\u0123in\u0101ja no emalj\u0101m tais\u012bt ar\u012b rotas uz kr\u0101sain\u0101 met\u0101la. Bet nu rezult\u0101ts bija stipri nepabeigts un eksperiment\u0101ls, un nevar\u0113ja saprast, kas tur gal\u0101 bija dom\u0101ts. Ja m\u0113s run\u0101jam, ka var\u0113tu noorganiz\u0113t rotu simpoziju, tas tehniski ir diezgan sare\u017e\u0123\u012bti. Ja organiz\u0113tu rotu simpoziju, tad nek\u0101d\u0101 gad\u012bjum\u0101 nevar\u0113tu b\u016bt, ka katrs taisa, ko grib un k\u0101 grib. Vajadz\u0113tu s\u0101kotn\u0113jos uzst\u0101d\u012bjumus, vai t\u0101 ir konceptu\u0101l\u0101 rota, vai t\u0101s ir tikai rotu idejas, jebkur\u0101 maket\u0113\u0161anas materi\u0101l\u0101. Ja vajadz\u012bgi tehniski risin\u0101jumi, j\u0101nodro\u0161ina, ka ir pieejami lod\u0113jamie apar\u0101ti, val\u010di vai kaut kas. Var noteikt konkr\u0113tu tehniku, ar emalj\u0101m vai dzintaru, piem\u0113ram. Ja taisa visu ko, tad ir gr\u016bti to realiz\u0113t praktiski. Varb\u016bt, ka Tu pasauli zini pulka lab\u0101k par mani, bet es ne esmu dzird\u0113jis, ka kaut kur b\u016btu bijis rotu simpozijs, pat ne Lietuv\u0101 un pat ne citur.<\/p>\n<p>G: Vai j\u016bs uzskat\u0101t, ka Latvie\u0161u rotu m\u0101ksliniekiem b\u016btu j\u0101izst\u0101d\u0101s galerij\u0101s Eirop\u0101?<\/p>\n<p>Juris Gagainis: (ilgi dom\u0101) Tas ir diezgan t\u0101ds divpus\u012bgs jaut\u0101jums. Es zinu m\u0101ksliniekus, kuriem nav nek\u0101da izgl\u012bt\u012bba. Vi\u0146i ir krievu taut\u012bbas rotka\u013ci. Vi\u0146i kaut ko taisa, p\u0101rdod internet\u0101, pasaul\u0113. Pied\u0101v\u0101 vis\u0101das savas rotas, turkl\u0101t \u013coti ap\u0161aub\u0101mas gaumes un ar \u013coti ap\u0161aub\u0101mu tehnisko izpild\u012bjumu. Tas nav mans lauci\u0146\u0161, un es neties\u0101ju un nelemju, lai vi\u0146i str\u0101d\u0101 un lai vi\u0146i dara. Ja Tu man prasi par tiek\u0161anos uz Eiropu, es dom\u0101ju, to nevajadz\u0113tu saist\u012bt ar komerci\u0101lu uzn\u0101cienu. Dr\u012bz\u0101k, pirmajam solim uz Eiropu vajadz\u0113tu b\u016bt iepaz\u012bstino\u0161am. Ja k\u0101ds interes\u0113jas, mums tur k\u0101dos pap\u012br\u012b\u0161os ir rakst\u012bts ar\u012b cenas. Protams, tas ir sare\u017e\u0123\u012bti. Man liekas, ka Eirop\u0101 jau tas pied\u0101v\u0101jums ir milz\u012bgs. Tev gan lab\u0101k zin\u0101ms, cik daudz ir akad\u0113miskie rotka\u013ci un cik ir t\u0101di rotka\u013ci, kas taisa tikai izst\u0101dei. T\u0101da rota nav citur nekur liekama, tikai uz izst\u0101di un fotograf\u0113jama.<\/p>\n<p>G: K\u0101 j\u016bs v\u0113rt\u0113jat situ\u0101ciju, ka Norv\u0113\u0123u r\u012bkotaj\u0101 apjom\u012bgaj\u0101 Zieme\u013cvalstu rotu izst\u0101d\u0113 \u201dFrom The Coolest Corner\u201d- Nordic Jewellery, p\u0113c projekta m\u0101jas lap\u0101 atrodam\u0101s inform\u0101cijas, potenci\u0101lo dal\u012bbvalstu vid\u016b tika min\u0113tas Baltijas valstis, tom\u0113r no t\u0101m piedal\u012bj\u0101s vien\u012bgi Igaunija. Viens no izst\u0101des galam\u0113r\u0137iem bija Minhenes Rotaslietu Ned\u0113\u013ca (MJW 2015), kur man bija iesp\u0113ja ne tikai apskat\u012bt izst\u0101di kl\u0101tien\u0113, bet ar\u012b dzird\u0113t organizatoru koment\u0101rus par ekspoz\u012bciju un aprun\u0101ties ar vi\u0146iem. Noskaidroju, ka pl\u0101nots bija uzrun\u0101t ar\u012b dal\u012bbniekus no Latvijas, tom\u0113r nek\u0101di kontakti netika ieg\u016bti un organizatori nezin\u0101ja nevienu rotu m\u0101kslinieku no Latvijas, kuru var\u0113tu uzrun\u0101t. Vai \u0161\u0101da situ\u0101cija ir komunik\u0101cijas tr\u016bkuma rad\u012bta vai ar\u012b Latvij\u0101 tie\u0161\u0101m nav rotu m\u0101kslinieku, kuru darbi ir aktu\u0101li, interesanti un atz\u012bstami starptautisk\u0101 izst\u0101d\u0113?<\/p>\n<p>Juris Gagainis: Igaunij\u0101 (Igaunijas M\u0101kslas Akad\u0113mij\u0101) rotu noda\u013cas vad\u012bt\u0101ja tagad ir sieviete, Kadi Melka, varb\u016bt Tu esi dzird\u0113jusi t\u0101du sievieti. Vi\u0146a \u013coti \u010dupojas ar somiem. Mums akad\u0113mij\u0101 (Latvijas M\u0101kslas akad\u0113mij\u0101), ja nemaldos, 2010. gad\u0101, bija paredz\u0113ta Baltijas valstu augstskolu izst\u0101de. Lietuvie\u0161i bija un latvie\u0161i bija. M\u0113s aicin\u0101j\u0101m ar\u012b igau\u0146us, bet vi\u0146i \u013coti augstpr\u0101t\u012bgi atteic\u0101s. Neatteic\u0101s t\u0101 sol\u012bdi, bet vienk\u0101r\u0161i neatbild\u0113ja. Lei\u0161i \u013coti labpr\u0101t atsauc\u0101s, un p\u0113c tam t\u0101 izst\u0101de bija Lietuv\u0101, Tit\u0101nik\u0101. (Lietuvas M\u0101kslas akad\u0113mijas galerij\u0101 \u201eTitanikas\u201d) Tit\u0101nik\u0101 bija t\u0101 pati izst\u0101de tikai ar citiem darbiem. Tie bija t\u0101di pirmie m\u0113\u0123in\u0101jumi. Es dom\u0101ju, ka tikai caur somiem igau\u0146i tur ir iesl\u012bd\u0113ju\u0161i, k\u0101 Baltijas valstu p\u0101rst\u0101vji. Sav\u0101 laik\u0101, kad es m\u0101c\u012bjos Tallin\u0101, mums bija \u013coti labi m\u0101kslinieki reiz\u0113 pasniedz\u0113ji. Da\u013c\u0113ji t\u0101, k\u0101 m\u016bsu katedr\u0101. Igau\u0146iem, pateicoties Kadri Melka, katedras virziens ir konceptu\u0101l\u0101 m\u0101ksla. Un visi igau\u0146u, un ar\u012b somu m\u0101kslinieki, kas str\u0101d\u0101 ar konceptu\u0101lo rotu, vi\u0146iem vien\u012bgais uzst\u0101\u0161an\u0101s veids vai izteiksmes, izpausmes veids ir izst\u0101des, un vi\u0146i sav\u0101d\u0101k nemaz nevar eksist\u0113t. Protams, bie\u017ei vien ir biju\u0161i gad\u012bjumi, kad konceptu\u0101l\u0101s rotas nop\u0113rk. Muzeji nop\u0113rk, k\u0101das priv\u0101tas kolekcijas, ne jau valk\u0101\u0161anai, bet k\u0101 k\u0101du atkl\u0101jumu, k\u0101 k\u0101du novit\u0101ti. M\u0113s v\u0113l neejam to konceptu\u0101lo ce\u013cu. Es uzskatu t\u0101, ir j\u0101b\u016bt k\u0101dam citam ien\u0101kumu avotam, ja cilv\u0113ks grib tais\u012bt konceptu\u0101lo m\u0101kslu. Ar\u012b igaunis, kur\u0161 te uzst\u0101j\u0101s, (Tanel Veenre viesoj\u0101s LMA ar lekciju) vi\u0146am ir k\u0101da galerija Somij\u0101 vai Zviedrij\u0101, vi\u0146\u0161 nodarbojas ar to un paral\u0113li, ja ir ien\u0101kumi, tad var tais\u012bt konceptu\u0101lo m\u0101kslu. Bet nu tas t\u0101. Bet es negribu b\u016bt t\u0101ds speci\u0101lists, jo mani t\u0101 lieta ne sevi\u0161\u0137i interes\u0113.<\/p>\n<p>G: M\u0113s jau tuvojamies intervijas beig\u0101m, vai j\u016bs varat past\u0101st\u012bt k\u0101 j\u016bs izv\u0113l\u0113j\u0101ties tie\u0161i met\u0101lm\u0101kslu visp\u0101r sav\u0101\u2026<\/p>\n<p>Juris Gagainis: \u2026Dz\u012bv\u0113?<\/p>\n<p>G: \u2026 dz\u012bv\u0113.<\/p>\n<p>Juris Gagainis: Nu, es Tev pateik\u0161u&#8230; \u0100, Tu to Ed\u012btes B\u0113rzi\u0146as rakstu \u201eLatvijas Architekt\u016br\u0101\u201d las\u012bji (Latvijas Architekt\u016bra nr.120 Augusts\/Septembris)?<\/p>\n<p>G: J\u0101.<\/p>\n<p>Juris Gagainis: Man\u0101 \u0123imen\u0113 t\u0113vs diezgan daudz str\u0101d\u0101ja ar met\u0101lu, bet vi\u0146\u0161 bija univers\u0101ls. Vi\u0146\u0161 var\u0113ja str\u0101d\u0101t ar\u012b ar koku, ar\u012b es t\u0101 pat varu str\u0101d\u0101t ar koku, k\u0101 vi\u0146\u0161. Saproti, ja cilv\u0113kam ir smadzenes un rokas, vi\u0146\u0161 var visu ko. Man \u013coti pat\u012bk str\u0101d\u0101t ar\u012b ar stiklu. M\u0113s ar savu m\u0101su, m\u0113s esam dv\u012b\u0146i. Vi\u0146a p\u0113c pamatskolas beig\u0161anas aizg\u0101ja uz R\u012bgas Lieti\u0161\u0137\u0101s M\u0101kslas vidusskolu. Uz tekstila noda\u013cu. M\u0113s dz\u012bvoj\u0101m diezgan tr\u016bc\u012bgi un mani vec\u0101ki, it sevi\u0161\u0137i t\u0113vs, teica, nekur t\u0101l\u0101k tu neiesi m\u0101c\u012bties, m\u0113s Tevi vair\u0101k nevaram uztur\u0113t, Tev j\u0101m\u0101c\u0101s k\u0101ds amats. T\u0101 mani aizs\u016bt\u012bja uz arodskolu, apg\u016bt amatu, instrumentu atsl\u0113dznieks. Tas bija apm\u0113ram 1959.gads. Tas viss bija diezgan barbariski un dr\u016bmi, un skumji, ar krievu stulbo k\u0101rt\u012bbu, bet es t\u0101ds mazs puika. Visp\u0101r, ja es atceros ko es tad, jau 13-14 gadu vecum\u0101, var\u0113ju uztais\u012bt, \u0161eit (LMA Met\u0101la dizaina katedr\u0101) neviens students to vairs nevar uztais\u012bt. Mums bija baig\u0101 discipl\u012bna un baigie termi\u0146i. M\u0113s str\u0101d\u0101j\u0101m tikai ar melniem materi\u0101liem un mums bija j\u0101apg\u016bst vis\u0101das tehnikas, virpo\u0161ana un citas. Bet, vakaros kad es p\u0101rn\u0101cu no arodskolas un m\u0101sa no lieti\u0161\u0137\u0101s skolas es skat\u012bjos, k\u0101 vi\u0146a tik smukas kompoz\u012bcijas un paraudzi\u0146us gatavo. Un gleznojumi un viss tas man \u013coti patika. M\u0101sa teica, tev j\u0101iet uz met\u0101listiem, ja tev tas pat\u012bk, t\u0101p\u0113c, ka lieti\u0161\u0137aj\u0101 skol\u0101 ir met\u0101listi. Un es divus gadus nom\u0101c\u012bjos arodskol\u0101 un atn\u0101cu uz lieti\u0161\u0137ajiem. Padomju laik\u0101 bija t\u0101, ja tu esi m\u0101c\u012bjies arodskol\u0101, tad Tev j\u0101iet str\u0101d\u0101t uz fabriku, bet, ja Tu ej uz vidusskolu, tad Tev tas nav j\u0101atstr\u0101d\u0101, ja nok\u0101rto iest\u0101jeks\u0101menus. Un es \u013coti grib\u0113ju nolikt eks\u0101menus, un es \u013coti centos, un es noliku tos iest\u0101jeks\u0101menus. Es pat 5 dab\u016bju kompoz\u012bcij\u0101, kaut ar\u012b nekur nebiju to m\u0101c\u012bjies. Un, v\u0101rdu sakot, es s\u0101ku str\u0101d\u0101t lieti\u0161\u0137aj\u0101 skol\u0101, m\u0101c\u012bties. Bet man tur g\u0101ja, \u013coti labi, jo man viss vienk\u0101r\u0161ais, ko vi\u0146i dar\u012bja, man tas bija nosp\u013cauties. \u013boti smalkas z\u0101\u0123\u0113\u0161anas un lod\u0113\u0161anas \u2013 t\u0101s es nebiju apguvis, bet viss p\u0101r\u0113jas, tur bija gan virpa&#8230; Es biju vien\u012bgais virpot\u0101js, kas visiem b\u0113rniem darbi\u0146us toreiz pal\u012bdz\u0113ju, kas bija j\u0101dara uz virpas. Bet nu tas t\u0101. Nevajag liel\u012bties. Arodskol\u0101 bija \u013coti gr\u016bti ar\u012b no sadz\u012bvisk\u0101 viedok\u013ca. Tur bija daudzi b\u0113rni no b\u0113rnu namiem un vi\u0146i neieredz\u0113ja tos, kas n\u0101k no m\u0101jas. Tur k\u0101v\u0101s un sit\u0101s, un tas man ir t\u0101ds\u2026 nu t\u0101ds laiks. Lai gan man arodskol\u0101 bija \u013coti gr\u016bti, man tur tika iem\u0101c\u012bts tas amats. Es visu m\u016b\u017eu ar to dz\u012bvoju. Man \u013coti pat\u012bk visu ko b\u016bv\u0113t. Man pat\u012bk ar vec\u0101m ma\u0161\u012bn\u0101m \u0146emties un restaur\u0113t. Visur tur ir dzel\u017ei un dzel\u017ei, un dzel\u017ei. Kad es beidzu augstskolu, man jau bija pilns kl\u0101sts ar vis\u0101diem instrumentiem, ko es var\u0113ju pats sag\u0101d\u0101t, ko ne. Igaunij\u0101 no somu j\u016brniekiem var\u0113ja ko dab\u016bt, tur citi ar\u012b kaut ko l\u012bfer\u0113ja. Es pat uztais\u012bju sev \u013coti labus val\u010dus. Man tie kalpo v\u0113l l\u012bdz \u0161ai dienai. Tikai t\u0101p\u0113c, ka man ir sapra\u0161ana par t\u0101d\u0101m liet\u0101m. Un es visu laiku kaut ko b\u016bv\u0113ju. Es tev st\u0101st\u012bju, ka es uztais\u012bju magn\u0113tisko t\u012br\u012b\u0161anu un man t\u0101das pal\u012bgier\u012bces ko es taisu ir daudz un vis\u0101das. T\u0101p\u0113c t\u0101da pieredze un prasme ar t\u0101diem materi\u0101liem, kas nav rot\u0101s, tas ir \u013coti for\u0161i. No t\u0101 var daudz ko ieg\u016bt ar\u012b rot\u0101s. Pa\u0146emt un p\u0101rtais\u012bt.<\/p>\n<p>G: Ja Jums b\u016btu j\u0101nosauc lab\u0101kie rotu m\u0101kslinieki Latvij\u0101, kurus j\u016bs ierindotu starp \u0161iem?<\/p>\n<p>Juris Gagainis: \u0160obr\u012bd vai visp\u0101r?<\/p>\n<p>G: \u0160obr\u012bd un visp\u0101r.<\/p>\n<p>Juris Gagainis: Vislab\u0101kais, bet vi\u0146\u0161 ir nelai\u0137is, kas sav\u0101 laik\u0101 bija, un man\u0101s ac\u012bs vi\u0146\u0161 v\u0113l tagad ir visfor\u0161\u0101kais rotkalis, tas ir Gundars Pekelis. Nezinu, Tu neesi dzird\u0113jusi varb\u016bt\u2026<\/p>\n<p>G: J\u0101, zinu Gundara Pekle\u013ca darbus no Dekorat\u012bv\u0101s M\u0101kslas un Dizaina muzeja.<\/p>\n<p>Juris Gagainis: J\u0101. Tad bija ar\u012b In\u0101ra Neilande, kas man patika. Marta Krasta bija \u013coti laba m\u0101ksliniece. Valdis Bo\u017ee man \u013coti pat\u012bk, \u0160usti\u0146am ar\u012b ir savs stili\u0146\u0161\u2026<\/p>\n<p>G: Varb\u016bt varam apskat\u012bt j\u016bsu darbus.<\/p>\n<p>Juris Gagainis: Nu ja. (Profesors r\u0101da savus darbus.) Ar ko m\u0101ksliniekam, izpild\u012bt\u0101jam darba gait\u0101 ir \u013coti j\u0101r\u0113\u0137in\u0101s, nu, tas ir, j\u0101paredz, ka t\u0101 b\u016bs? (R\u0101dot savu darbu \u2013 ozola z\u012bli)<\/p>\n<div class=\"separator\"><a href=\"https:\/\/3.bp.blogspot.com\/-Fz8Fo72oXNk\/WgnlOhKaj3I\/AAAAAAAAKew\/vvOrKfyiyH0ajCuMrAC1tJ5bJBljt8RpwCLcBGAs\/s1600\/2015-10-29%2B004.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/3.bp.blogspot.com\/-Fz8Fo72oXNk\/WgnlOhKaj3I\/AAAAAAAAKew\/vvOrKfyiyH0ajCuMrAC1tJ5bJBljt8RpwCLcBGAs\/s320\/2015-10-29%2B004.jpg\" width=\"320\" height=\"213\" border=\"0\" data-original-height=\"1068\" data-original-width=\"1600\" \/><\/a><\/div>\n<div class=\"separator\"><\/div>\n<p>G: Lai t\u0101 neb\u016btu smaga?<\/p>\n<p>Juris Gagainis: N\u0113 nu t\u0101 ir tuk\u0161a, protams. Ozola z\u012ble \u2013 t\u0101 ir ola. Tai viens gals ir spic\u0101ks un otrs ar\u012b ir apa\u013c\u0161. Te tai aiziet apak\u0161i\u0146a uz leju. Ko tas noz\u012bm\u0113? Ja Tu pievilksi to pie formas, tu to nenomauksi. T\u0101p\u0113c ir vajadz\u012bgas divas formas, viena taisa cilindrisko, otra forma ir ar tiev\u0101ku diametru, kur tik jau gatavais gals tev piespie\u017eas un tu uz tuk\u0161o, uz svaigo gaisu piespied to un tad tu vari to nomaukt. Otrs knifs ir t\u0101ds, ka t\u0101 ir tuk\u0161a tilpne. To tu pielod\u0113, \u0161o pielod\u0113, \u0161o lod\u0113t nedr\u012bkst, jo, ja tu \u0161ito pielod\u0113si, tev \u0161aus vi\u0146\u0161.<\/p>\n<p>G: Uzspr\u0101gs.<\/p>\n<p>Juris Gagainis: Uzspr\u0101gs, j\u0101! Un man \u0161eit ir smalka v\u012btn\u012bte, m2 v\u012btn\u012bte, kura ir uz \u0137\u012bl\u0113\u0161anu stingri piegriezta un viss, tas ir j\u0101\u0146em v\u0113r\u0101. Tie ir t\u0101di knifi. Bet to nav viegli tais\u012bt, jo t\u0101 sast\u0101v no vair\u0101k\u0101m da\u013c\u0101m, ar\u012b \u0161\u012b da\u013ca. \u0160ie darbi (r\u0101da) ir prezident\u016bras darbi.<\/p>\n<div class=\"separator\"><a href=\"https:\/\/2.bp.blogspot.com\/--F3_g4Gc2ps\/WgnZXPKLWKI\/AAAAAAAAKdc\/HkIonye8AREoIFOko6cHADwG1q7SO2NkQCLcBGAs\/s1600\/2015-10-29%2B005.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/2.bp.blogspot.com\/--F3_g4Gc2ps\/WgnZXPKLWKI\/AAAAAAAAKdc\/HkIonye8AREoIFOko6cHADwG1q7SO2NkQCLcBGAs\/s320\/2015-10-29%2B005.jpg\" width=\"320\" height=\"213\" border=\"0\" data-original-height=\"1069\" data-original-width=\"1600\" \/><\/a><\/div>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<table class=\"tr-caption-container\" cellspacing=\"0\" cellpadding=\"0\" align=\"center\">\n<tbody>\n<tr>\n<td><a href=\"https:\/\/3.bp.blogspot.com\/-x90KKSfNKIw\/WgnZXDXwfiI\/AAAAAAAAKdg\/igppmu1MN4sepHj3YspSzxOymKYMfXePgCLcBGAs\/s1600\/2015-10-29%2B008.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/3.bp.blogspot.com\/-x90KKSfNKIw\/WgnZXDXwfiI\/AAAAAAAAKdg\/igppmu1MN4sepHj3YspSzxOymKYMfXePgCLcBGAs\/s320\/2015-10-29%2B008.jpg\" width=\"320\" height=\"213\" border=\"0\" data-original-height=\"1068\" data-original-width=\"1600\" \/><\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td class=\"tr-caption\">Iepakojuma dizainu prezident\u016brai rad\u012btaj\u0101m rot\u0101m izdom\u0101jis un pas\u016bt\u012bjis Juris Gagainis pats, firm\u0101 Purpurs. Sadarb\u012bba esot ilgusi krietnu laiku, l\u012bdz atrasts \u012bstais materi\u0101ls un viss vi\u0146u apmierin\u0101jis. Gagainis uzskata prezident\u016brai rad\u012bto rotu par arheolo\u0123isk\u0101s rotas atvasin\u0101jumu. Smalkie caurumi\u0146i ir cilv\u0113ka takas uz vis\u0101m pus\u0113m, un bumbi\u0146as ir rasas l\u0101ses, kas katru dienu vi\u0146u sagaida, st\u0101sta Gagainis.<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/tbody>\n<\/table>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<div class=\"separator\"><a href=\"https:\/\/3.bp.blogspot.com\/-xG7DFTMEu5I\/WgnZsw_-_1I\/AAAAAAAAKds\/a8Gd0JoZs40woIiN4Uzy9pPWdVpnTb7oACLcBGAs\/s1600\/2015-10-29%2B021.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/3.bp.blogspot.com\/-xG7DFTMEu5I\/WgnZsw_-_1I\/AAAAAAAAKds\/a8Gd0JoZs40woIiN4Uzy9pPWdVpnTb7oACLcBGAs\/s320\/2015-10-29%2B021.jpg\" width=\"213\" height=\"320\" border=\"0\" data-original-height=\"1600\" data-original-width=\"1068\" \/><\/a><\/div>\n<p>Juris Gagainis: Tas ir tas tit\u0101ns. Es Tev st\u0101st\u012bju, k\u0101 tas ir j\u0101taisa, ja? Tur urbji un grie\u017e\u0146i tupoja, nu neasi palika. Tas ir izvirpots pl\u0101ns, viena puse un otra puse, \u0161itais ir pl\u0113sts tit\u0101ns. Redzi, k\u0101da fakt\u016bra, kur vi\u0146\u0161 p\u0101rpl\u0113sts.<\/p>\n<p>G: K\u0101 var nopl\u0113st tit\u0101nu, tas te\u010du ir tik ciets!<\/p>\n<p>Juris Gagainis: Vot t\u0101, t\u0101\u2026 Baigo sp\u0113ku vajag.<\/p>\n<div class=\"separator\"><a href=\"https:\/\/3.bp.blogspot.com\/-mFfl2WYq004\/WgnZ3FdDHoI\/AAAAAAAAKdw\/NswXO7c1vFAhJoyc_UwVNNtqC4Re0TgegCLcBGAs\/s1600\/2015-10-29%2B022%2BRobinsons%2BKruzo.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/3.bp.blogspot.com\/-mFfl2WYq004\/WgnZ3FdDHoI\/AAAAAAAAKdw\/NswXO7c1vFAhJoyc_UwVNNtqC4Re0TgegCLcBGAs\/s320\/2015-10-29%2B022%2BRobinsons%2BKruzo.jpg\" width=\"320\" height=\"213\" border=\"0\" data-original-height=\"1068\" data-original-width=\"1600\" \/><\/a><\/div>\n<div class=\"separator\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"separator\"><a href=\"https:\/\/3.bp.blogspot.com\/-6VdfQCn7sjo\/Wgna3glMuvI\/AAAAAAAAKeQ\/OV2FGUSHOaEdZp3CM3YXlOj-2yOayg5cwCLcBGAs\/s1600\/2015-10-29%2B013.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/3.bp.blogspot.com\/-6VdfQCn7sjo\/Wgna3glMuvI\/AAAAAAAAKeQ\/OV2FGUSHOaEdZp3CM3YXlOj-2yOayg5cwCLcBGAs\/s320\/2015-10-29%2B013.jpg\" width=\"320\" height=\"213\" border=\"0\" data-original-height=\"1068\" data-original-width=\"1600\" \/><\/a><\/div>\n<div class=\"separator\"><\/div>\n<p>\u0160it\u0101 man sauc\u0101s Robinsons Kruzo, tas ir Robinsons (r\u0101da), tur ir Piektdienis, tur it t\u0101 sala un laiva vi\u0146a.<\/p>\n<div class=\"separator\"><a href=\"https:\/\/1.bp.blogspot.com\/-yN9adQUqosk\/WgnZ8-ch5oI\/AAAAAAAAKd0\/RKteNJscJTkEwYmTM1p2fNB3ESWzuKBlgCLcBGAs\/s1600\/2015-10-29%2B014%2BGagainis%2Bar%2Bm%25C4%2581su.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/1.bp.blogspot.com\/-yN9adQUqosk\/WgnZ8-ch5oI\/AAAAAAAAKd0\/RKteNJscJTkEwYmTM1p2fNB3ESWzuKBlgCLcBGAs\/s320\/2015-10-29%2B014%2BGagainis%2Bar%2Bm%25C4%2581su.jpg\" width=\"320\" height=\"213\" border=\"0\" data-original-height=\"1068\" data-original-width=\"1600\" \/><\/a><\/div>\n<p>\u0160eit te m\u0113s ar m\u0101su s\u0113\u017eam, dv\u012b\u0146i, pie loga. Tur uz palodzes \u0101bol\u012btis, jo m\u0113s piedzim\u0101m ruden\u012b.<\/p>\n<div class=\"separator\"><a href=\"https:\/\/3.bp.blogspot.com\/-FPVmBAQP33w\/WgnaC0NdOvI\/AAAAAAAAKd4\/b9pYsAIUNfATe2hSh1UpRl2sJE5LhJJKQCLcBGAs\/s1600\/2015-10-29%2B015-2%2BP%25C4%2581rdomas%2B.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/3.bp.blogspot.com\/-FPVmBAQP33w\/WgnaC0NdOvI\/AAAAAAAAKd4\/b9pYsAIUNfATe2hSh1UpRl2sJE5LhJJKQCLcBGAs\/s320\/2015-10-29%2B015-2%2BP%25C4%2581rdomas%2B.jpg\" width=\"320\" height=\"213\" border=\"0\" data-original-height=\"1068\" data-original-width=\"1600\" \/><\/a><\/div>\n<p>\u0160\u012b man sauc\u0101s \u201eP\u0101rdomas\u201d. Tur t\u0101ds d\u017eeks s\u0113\u017e un sap\u0146o par b\u0113rn\u012bbu, kur t\u0101 saul\u012bte. Bet vi\u0146am tas ce\u013c\u0161 ir bijis \u013coti grumbu\u013cains. T\u0101ds man par vienu t\u0101du manu for\u0161u draugu. Es cen\u0161os ar\u012b t\u0101m rot\u0101m k\u0101dreiz savu\u2026<\/p>\n<div class=\"separator\"><a href=\"https:\/\/2.bp.blogspot.com\/-cFZ8ECm_oW0\/WgnaKT3BGRI\/AAAAAAAAKd8\/_jauwn_cBAABSQ4hzEbMVKiiDcYWd8RBACLcBGAs\/s1600\/2015-10-29%2B018.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/2.bp.blogspot.com\/-cFZ8ECm_oW0\/WgnaKT3BGRI\/AAAAAAAAKd8\/_jauwn_cBAABSQ4hzEbMVKiiDcYWd8RBACLcBGAs\/s320\/2015-10-29%2B018.jpg\" width=\"320\" height=\"213\" border=\"0\" data-original-height=\"1068\" data-original-width=\"1600\" \/><\/a><\/div>\n<p>Es agr\u0101k tais\u012bju diezgan lielas rotas. Tas akmens ir viens ametisti\u0146\u0161. Es pa\u0146\u0113mu Tev par\u0101d\u012bt t\u0101das, veco laiku rotas, jo tad man lik\u0101s, ka mana t\u0113lot\u0101ja m\u0101kslas ideja vislab\u0101k nolas\u0101s.<\/p>\n<div class=\"separator\"><a href=\"https:\/\/4.bp.blogspot.com\/-rclaYWqCuvI\/WgnaR6aZ6vI\/AAAAAAAAKeE\/ibUwSQ3w4eomKrIIpYeutkFrFQIofZrZgCLcBGAs\/s1600\/2015-10-29%2B020%2BSomija%2B1998.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/4.bp.blogspot.com\/-rclaYWqCuvI\/WgnaR6aZ6vI\/AAAAAAAAKeE\/ibUwSQ3w4eomKrIIpYeutkFrFQIofZrZgCLcBGAs\/s320\/2015-10-29%2B020%2BSomija%2B1998.jpg\" width=\"320\" height=\"213\" border=\"0\" data-original-height=\"1069\" data-original-width=\"1600\" \/><\/a><\/div>\n<p>\u0160is ir no laika, kad es biju Somij\u0101, m\u0101kslinieku darbn\u012bc\u0101, un no Somijas ir v\u0113l \u0161\u012b. \u0160\u012bs divas. \u0160it\u0101 bij izst\u0101d\u0113. Tas ir l\u0113jums mans. 1998. gad\u0101 es biju m\u0101kslinieku atelj\u0113, 3 m\u0113ne\u0161us str\u0101d\u0101ju. Somi mani uzaicin\u0101ja, un man tur baigi labi g\u0101ja un patika. Es tur lielu kolekciju uztais\u012bju, bet nu jau vi\u0146a ir izdai\u013c\u0101ta un izputin\u0101ta. Bildes ir, j\u0101, bildes ir.<\/p>\n<div class=\"separator\"><a href=\"https:\/\/2.bp.blogspot.com\/-T5PsPgzlAVA\/WgnaaDOjCPI\/AAAAAAAAKeI\/5zIvXXxWH4ImWZZqCM7t-YHWImJIJEltgCLcBGAs\/s1600\/2015-10-29%2B023-2%2BDz%25C4%25ABves%2BSvari%2B2011.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/2.bp.blogspot.com\/-T5PsPgzlAVA\/WgnaaDOjCPI\/AAAAAAAAKeI\/5zIvXXxWH4ImWZZqCM7t-YHWImJIJEltgCLcBGAs\/s320\/2015-10-29%2B023-2%2BDz%25C4%25ABves%2BSvari%2B2011.jpg\" width=\"320\" height=\"213\" border=\"0\" data-original-height=\"1068\" data-original-width=\"1600\" \/><\/a><\/div>\n<p>\u0160\u012b sauc\u0101s \u201eDz\u012bves svari\u201d, kad mums t\u0101s v\u0113rt\u012bbas j\u0101izsver. Te ir tas svaru simbols, cilv\u0113ks ar savu kl\u0101tb\u016btni ar roku. Un te veidoj\u0101s tie likte\u0146i, kas tur, saj\u016bk. Tur tie gr\u0101li, saucamie. \u0160it\u0101 es zinu, tur bija akad\u0113mijas izst\u0101de, tas ir kaut k\u0101ds 2011. gads.<\/p>\n<div class=\"separator\"><a href=\"https:\/\/1.bp.blogspot.com\/-54xD4BUS16c\/WgnbAuZ-g3I\/AAAAAAAAKeY\/p0Gsmlg7vzwiINf1NRhYS-IHQ_XHx1vAwCLcBGAs\/s1600\/2015-10-29%2B002.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/1.bp.blogspot.com\/-54xD4BUS16c\/WgnbAuZ-g3I\/AAAAAAAAKeY\/p0Gsmlg7vzwiINf1NRhYS-IHQ_XHx1vAwCLcBGAs\/s320\/2015-10-29%2B002.jpg\" width=\"320\" height=\"213\" border=\"0\" data-original-height=\"1068\" data-original-width=\"1600\" \/><\/a><\/div>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<div class=\"separator\"><a href=\"https:\/\/4.bp.blogspot.com\/-TPXIixII8uY\/WgnbA-st5JI\/AAAAAAAAKec\/oyrmKGl0wogITV0I4HOHmvSqXpTC6V4sQCLcBGAs\/s1600\/2015-10-29%2B017.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/4.bp.blogspot.com\/-TPXIixII8uY\/WgnbA-st5JI\/AAAAAAAAKec\/oyrmKGl0wogITV0I4HOHmvSqXpTC6V4sQCLcBGAs\/s320\/2015-10-29%2B017.jpg\" width=\"320\" height=\"213\" border=\"0\" data-original-height=\"1069\" data-original-width=\"1600\" \/><\/a><\/div>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<div class=\"separator\"><a href=\"https:\/\/1.bp.blogspot.com\/-zhByysiBXcg\/WgnbA0nYcVI\/AAAAAAAAKeU\/U2A_M5oiBR8fOu_qOhkaVGjnTp-jKEUsQCLcBGAs\/s1600\/2015-10-29%2B025-2.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/1.bp.blogspot.com\/-zhByysiBXcg\/WgnbA0nYcVI\/AAAAAAAAKeU\/U2A_M5oiBR8fOu_qOhkaVGjnTp-jKEUsQCLcBGAs\/s320\/2015-10-29%2B025-2.jpg\" width=\"320\" height=\"213\" border=\"0\" data-original-height=\"1068\" data-original-width=\"1600\" \/><\/a><\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Atceroties Juri Gagaini \u00a0Sa\u0146emot s\u0113ru v\u0113sti par prof. Jura Gagai\u0146a aizie\u0161anu mani p\u0101r\u0146\u0113ma sav\u0101da tuk\u0161uma saj\u016bta. Otru t\u0101du person\u012bbu es nepaz\u012bstu. K\u0101 pasniedz\u0113js vi\u0146\u0161 bija \u013coti k\u0101rt\u012bgs, vienm\u0113r lekcijas s\u0101k\u0101s laik\u0101 un tika novad\u012btas l\u012bdz p\u0113d\u0113jai min\u016btei. Vi\u0146\u0161 sp\u0113ja \u013coti skaidri izteikties un vi\u0146a runa vienm\u0113r bija interesanta un j\u0113gpilna. 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